And it’s welcome back to the podcast the first third-time guest, Emily Writes. She was first on in the very early days of the pod, back at episode # 14. And her first repeat-turn was for episode # 52, here we are again.
Now I’ve known Emily since before she was working as “Emily Writes” – we’re friends. Our kids have grown up together. And I’m one of the guest writers in her new book, Is It Bedtime Yet? So I was always going to have her on for a third time.
In fact when we last spoke for the podcast that was in promo-mode, her first book – Rant In The Dark – was just new to the world. So my original plan was to have her back to talk about “Bedtime” – ahead of the punishing promo schedule. But sickness and parenting and work – and life – got in the way for us both. So we ended up having this chat instead, the book already launched and out in the world, all of the major press and TV and radio interviews done.
And here’s the Trigger Warning:
This conversation gets very heavy – rather quickly Emily bravely talks about mental health and the broader discussion centres around the toll that writing online takes; the bullying that seems to come as part of social media. Emily tells her story. And we go deep. Now I knew this story ahead of the podcast. I in no way wanted to push Emily towards speaking about any of this – in fact I asked her before we were rolling; the decision was hers. She wanted to have this conversation. She trusted me as a friend, and knew she’d have the time to unpack and that this was the place to put it – no headline grabs, no re-working, misquoting, tricky editing…This is the raw conversation.
There’s much to celebrate of course – a new book, kids, life. But great achievements can – and do – happen in and around an awful year, a tough year, a shit of a time.
It’s been a really hard year for Emily. Through her family and friends and her own strength she’s made it. And made so much from it and within it. She is such a support pillar for the communities she is fostering.
Buy the books, share them with friends – buy them as gifts. And I hope you enjoy listening to this – if you choose to do so having read the warning (There’s a trigger warning in the spoken intro also).
I’m so proud of Emily, of all she’s achieved and I was honoured that she trusted me and this podcast to have this particular conversation. We need conversations like this. We need them to be out in the world. They’re part of what lets us continue on in this world. Understanding is key. Kindness costs nothing. Love is the natural in-between.