Welcome to episode 216 of Sweetman Podcast with support from our sponsors – T Leaf T and Yeastie Boys .

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Here is the final conversation I recorded ahead of the Covid Lockdown. This is me chatting with David Cormack – a PR/Comms guy who you might know from his appearances on TV (The Nation) and radio (RNZ’s The Panel) and from a regular column in the NZ Herald – which was still going at the time of this conversation but is another casualty of changes to journalism under Coronavirus.

Ahead of the PR and punditry Cormack was a fledgling comic – and that’s where he and I first met/butted heads. He wrote to me taking me to task over my reviews of other comedians (I never saw his act) and we met for a beer and then went to a gig and maintained a friendship as a direct result of actually meeting. Funny how that works when you take an online squabble out into the real world and add a pinch of maturity, eh?

I’ve wanted to talk to David for the podcast for a while – but he wondered why anyone would want to hear from him, and besides he has enough platforms at any rate.

Then he was involved in the launch of a fantastic new podcast called Brazen. At the time we talked there was just two episodes available – there are now five. And hopefully more to come. At any rate, I knew it was worth asking him on again, I figured he’d talk – if for no other reason than to promote the new podcast. And of course we found other reasons too….

So buckle up for some cheap shots and deep chats – about the state of politics and journalism and the roles of the PR people and pundits.

I will remind you this conversation took place ahead of the lockdown, which means this conversation took place ahead of Simon Bridges being replaced by The Thumb – Todd Muller. That’s relevant to one of the topics you’ll hear in this chat.

Here now is episode 216 of Sweetman Podcast – my conversation with David Cormack.

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